PETE WARD

"WELCOME TO MY OUTDOOR WORLD"

Gear Review

http://www.tradtecharchery.com/

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LANCASTER ARCHERY SUPPLY
2195-A Old Philadelphia Pike (Rt. 340)
Lancaster, PA 17602
1 mile East of Rte. 30 on Rt. 340

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 Trad Tech Pinnacle "ILF"

Recurve

62" 40#  Wood/Glass limb

Longbow

64" 45# Wood/Glass limb

see also the

Titan Review

and

My thoughts on ILF setups with Short Risers

 

 

Riser description

 Super Strong 19” Riser Crafted of Custom Hardwoods and Thick Phenolic Layers
· Custom–Made by Samick Exclusively for TradTech According to our Cooperative Design
· Features ILF (International Limb Fitting) System for Use with all ILF Limbs.
· Industry First, Beautiful Wood Riser to Accept ILF Limbs of Any Brand.

Riser weight 1.7 pounds

Update June 2010 Limb bolt finaly changed

Trad Tech has changed the Pinnacle II  limb bolt system to the same system as used on all other TT risers. This is a much better system. It is easier to make fine adjustments, and looks much better.

PinnacleII riser with new bolt and lateral adjustment above


New PinacleII Riser, May 08

The Pinnacle has been upgraded as of May 08 to a new clearne more finished look. The sharp edges are gone and it is also slimmer. I expect to have the new model soon and will update this review when it arrives. 

Pete

Original Pinnacle riser

Longbow and Recurve limbs

All Trad Tech limbs are FF compatable.

Update June 2008

The Pinnacle riser has undergone some serious improvements to it's looks and feel.

 The Pinnacle II is slimer, with the sharp edges rounded off and the grip size is smaller.There is aditional contouring, new black limb bolts. To sum it up the Pinnacle II is just a lot better in the way it looks and feels.  The photos below show the new Pinnacle II beside the early version.The changes are even more evident when the bow is in your hand.

I have been shooting this bow for several weeks now and it is time to complete the Pinnacle review. This is an entry level three-piece bow that offers a choice of any recurve or longbow limbs that use the ILF type limb attachment. You are not locked into any one manufacturer, or style. The standard limbs that come with the Pinnacle are a wood/glass type that quickly changes without the use of tools.

I have a 40# set of recurve limbs and a set of 45# longbow limbs both in wood glass, and medium length that I will write a bit about in the review. The first ones to be used were the recurve limbs. These are Red Elm under clear glass and they have a very nice feel to draw. I set the tiller to "0 " by adjusting the limb bolt and set the draw to be starting to stack at 27". {It can be adjusted to move the stack to a longer draw length.} These settings are optimal for my 27" draw and shooting 3 under.

Shooting the recurve limbs was a surprise for me. I expected the bow to be loud, and in need of a lot of string silencing. I was wrong; all that is needed to make this a very quiet hunting bow is a small set of beaver balls. It has always been my observation that Endless loop strings like the ones supplied were noisy, but on this bow they are not. Vibrations are not felt at all, the bow shoots very dead in the hand, and again it is very quiet.

The 19"riser is made from Laminated hardwood with Phenolic and glass accent reinforcing. The grip is what I would call medium large size. I like the feel of the grip and seem to shoot it well with both the recurve and longbow limbs. The ILF limb mounting system is fast becoming popular with hunters today, but it is usually only found on the more expensive bows and target risers.  To find it on an economical riser like the Pinnacle is a first for me. I like it, and hope to see this option available on more bows in the future.

                                                 

                                      ILF mount                            Limb bolt detail

The advantage with the ILF limb fit is you can choose a limb that is suited to your needs. Short draw shooters can choose a short limb to maximize the limbs potential at their draw length. And the shooter with a longer draw can choose from a medium or long length limb.

 Tiller can be set to meet your shooting style, and draw weights are slightly adjustable. Limb alignment is also possible with the ILF system. We also have the ability to choose to upgrade to better quality limbs from the Top Olympic limb used by the worlds best or to simply get a few more pounds draw weight with the standard limb. If you decide to try longbow limbs they are also available, and easily change the Pinnacle to a longbow.

 

 Trad Tech has a complete line of ILF limbs to suit any need, from the stock wood/glass, to an upgraded Carbon wood, and the top of the line Extreme BF limbs made for the Titan Riser. {I will be reviewing the Titan shortly.}If you should decide that after upgrading the Pinnacle limbs you want to upgrade the riser, those limbs will fit the "Titan", or any ILF riser.  Trad Tech ILF wood glass limbs are marked for the proper weight on this 19" riser. When using Olympic limbs from other brands you need to add about 6 pounds to the marked weight, as they are usually scaled for a 25" target riser. Enough on ILF, I am sure by now you know I like the system..

Shooting this bow with the recurve limbs is a pleasant experience. The light weight 40# limbs make a 62" bow that draws smooth and shoot without any vibrations, and noise is not a concern. I used 1 set of Beaver Ball silencers to achieve hunting silence on the 14 strand TS1 endless loop string that was supplied with the Pinnacle. This is one of the quietest recurves I have shot. The bow tuned easily and accuracy is better than I am capable of.

Chart for Trad Tech 40# RC Wood Glass limbs.

 All shots were with marked arrows and the draw length was coached by my wife Pat. All shots are with a static release and Tab. I am now using a constant power supply to eleminate battery run down.

AMO Draw length

 Draw weight

Arrow

 gr

 FPS

Arrow

 gr

FPS 

Arrow

 gr

FPS

 

 

  0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  7 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  8 

  brace

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  9

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  10

  0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  11

  4.94

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  12

  8.29

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  13

  11.29

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  14

  13.85

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  15

  16.09

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  16

  18.21

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  17

  20.20

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  18

  22.14

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  19

  24.08

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  20

  25.84

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  21

  27.52

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  22

  29.23

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  23

  31.00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  24

  32.81

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  25

  34.79

FPS

 

FPS 

 

FPS 

 

         

26"

  36.78

  360

166

  424

155

  560

140

 

 

27"

  38.98

  360

174

   424

166

  560

150

 

 

28"

29"

30"

  41.18

  43.65

  46.17

  360

na

na

 181

na

   424

na

170

na

  560

na

 154

na

 688

na 

  143

na

 

With the Long length 45# longbow limbs we get a 64" bow that is also very nice to shoot. It is as quiet without silencers on the string as many bows are with them. I used 1set of Beaver balls and this made for a totally silent, vibration free bow. With both sets of limbs there is no shock felt. 

Charts for the Trad Tech 45# longbow wood glass limbs.

AMO Draw length

 Draw weight

Arrow

 gr

 FPS

Arrow

 gr

FPS 

Arrow

 gr

FPS

 

 

  0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  7 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  8 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  9

  brace

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  10

  0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  11

  6.44

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  12

  10.05

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  13

  12.96

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  14

  15.35

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  15

  17.59

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  16

  19.71

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  17

  21.65

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  18

  23.90

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  19

  25.93

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  20

  27.87

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  21

  29.94

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  22

  31.97

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  23

  34.04

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  24

  36.11

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  25

  38.36

  424

FPS

  482 

FPS 

  560 

FPS 

 688  

 

26"

  40.75

  424

163

  482

154

  560

145

  na

  na

27"

  43.12

  424

172

   482

163

  560

152

  na

  na

28"

29"

30"

31"

32"

  45.64

  48.50

  51.46

  54.72

  57.76

  424

NA

NA

NA

NA

 178

   482

174

  560

 160

  688

148 

    There is an area that gave me a slight concern. This is with the limb fit. I would like to see this ILF mounting system with a bit more positive click when the limb is installed, and I would like to see the limb butt extend fully past the limb bolt. I have not had any problems with the limbs moving ,and they seem secure , however I think that they should be able to fit deeper into the ILF system like the Titan does. Rob and Lee at Trad Tech assure me that this is normal with this bow and it is nothing to worry about.

Comment added April 15/2008

Since writing the original review I have shot the Pinnacle bow a lot and I want to say that I feel very comeforatable in saying I am not concerned with the limb fit at all now. My earlier concerns were unfounded, and there have not been any issues at all with the limb fit. Readers should not be concerned at all with my statements in the above paragraph.

Pete

I did find that the ILF button Detents were machined with a small ridge that was keeping them from  engaging fully. After taking them apart I chucked the tiny detent pins in a press and filed the ridge down. They now have an audible click when they are fully seated. The ILF buttons on the Titan limbs have a longer screw, and heavier spring that gives a louder click when the limb is inserted into the riser.. I hope that in the future the Pinnacle ILF buttons are upgraded to the same quality as are found on the Titan limbs.

To sum up this review I feel that the Trad Tech Pinnacle is a very good value bow. The price is affordable to most shooters and for the dollar spent I don't think it can be beat.

 The bow shoots very well with all the limbs tested and it is one of the most versatile bows available due to the ILF limb mounting system.The available limbs to fit this bow are numerous, vary from light weight youth beginner  limbs to heavy weight Expert limbs. You can have it as a longbow, or a recurve,or both . Youth limbs from FITA type bows are available in very light weights. This  makes a great bow for the young shooter to grow with or for the adult that wants a bow on a budget that can be set up to meet any need he may have. I am very impressed and surprised with the economy limbs I tested  on the Pinnacle . I did not expect to like them as much as I do. I was expecting a lot less from them than what they deliver.

Pete Ward

"Welcome to my outdoor world"

 

Here are some comments from a friend, Pastor Brian Rice, also known as Carbon Caster on the Traditional Archery foruns.

Last Friday night while warming up before shooting in our traditional D.A.R.T League, I picked up Pete’s test Pinnacle and began to put a few arrows thru it.  It was set up with the base model wood/glass recurve limbs on it as I was shooting it.  I had shot a couple of arrows out of it previously, but had not shot more than one end with it since Pete received it to do his review.  After shooting several target ends with it, Pete looked over at me and said, “You can shoot the D.A. R.T.’s with it tonight if you want.”  I told Pete that I was planning on it and that I wasn’t planning on asking permission.  LOL!!!  I really enjoyed shooting this bow.  I own an ILF hunting recurve, so ILF limbs are not new to me.  I was a bit surprised in the bang for your buck with this bow though.  The wood glass limbs are very smooth and good performers.  The fact that they have a nice wood veneer under clear glass make them a bit more attractive to look at as well.  The Riser impressed me so much that I am thinking about ordering one to put a set of ILF limbs on that I have coming.  I would recommend the Pinnacle to anybody as one of the best deals in traditional archery.  I think it is the perfect starter bow for the beginning traditional archer; but at the same time,  I also find it to be a wonderful bow for the experienced archer.  If you like what the ILF limbs have to offer, enjoy the look and feel of a wood riser, and want a great product for an even greater price; the Pinnacle should be at the “top” of your list.

 Brian Rice